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Really just a curiousity... kids and antibiotics
By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:16 PM

What is the common practice in giving children antibiotics where you live.

Here I definately feel that they are over prescribed, and those kids seem to be the ones that are always sick.

I know that at one point in Ireland the common pracitice was to basically not give them to kids under 10, unless life threatening, to basically try to stop the progress of antibiotic resistance.

I know that I was told that 90% of ear infections will clear themselves up with no intervention... how true this is I don't know, but it was a doctor that told me.

I'm the type who avoids the doctors office like the plague, and would rather not take my kid there, because I know she will pick up more from the waiting room.

I'm really just curious, do doctors prescribe them as easily where you live as they seem to here?

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By Theresamember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 34891, member since Wed May 22, 2002
On Wed Jan 02, 2013 02:06 AM
I don't tend to spend alot of time worrying myself over what other people are doing, so I don't really know.

I know that for my son, there's been more times that I took him to the doctor and they told me to take him home and wait it out, than there were times that I took him to the doctor and they actually put him on anything at all.

And he's also never caught anything from the waiting room.
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By millysmommy Comments: 847, member since Tue Jun 09, 2009
On Wed Jan 02, 2013 02:15 AM
I feel like every other day I hear about someones kid being put on antibiotics for the fourth time this year... etc, etc, But then again the main doctors office, that most people go to in our area I wouldn't touch with a 100 foot pole.

That being said our family doctor is a formally trained doctor, a midwife and a natroupathic doctor working as a team, I have 3 and my oldest is 5 and none of them have ever been on antibiotics. That being said out of the three of them they have only been to the doctor because of illness 5 times in their collective lives, so maybe I'm just lucky in that respect.
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By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Wed Jan 02, 2013 02:17 AM
I am just curious as to what the standard is in some areas. I remember working in a walk in clinic where people would come in with a runny nose and think they needed antibiotics.

Teresa has caught stuff from a waiting room at the hospital (when she was there for a non illness). I think it's something like 50% of what goes through emerg here that doesn't need to go through emerg.
re: Really just a curiousity... kids and antibiotics (karma: 1)
By Celebrianmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7921, member since Thu Mar 31, 2005
On Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:44 PM
The last time my son was on antibiotics was (I think) about 2 to three years ago for a pretty bad infection. He's a strange one. He'll go long periods of time very well and healthy and then BANG! Sick as a dog. I think half my gray hairs were obtained in S----s Hospital.

So it's been awhile and I hope it stays how it is now.

The doctor we have really likes to test the kids first by throat swabs or whatever before having them on antibiotics. If the test comes out negative you don't get antibiotics. This led to him getting worse that last time, though, because they got a false negative off his test at the doctor's office and he got worse and thus almost died.

As for 'picking stuff up' in waiting rooms, my kid's doctor's office has two. One for contagious kids and one for kids who are just going in for check-ups that don't have coughs or runny noses or chest infections or whatever. I'd never seen that before that office. His doctor's background might influence the way he sees things, but he's not into throwing antibiotics at everything and he's even into letting a fever rage if it's under 102. Once it passes 101.9 he wants them dosed with something, but not before. He feels fever serves a purpose and let it do its work. Only when it becomes threatening to the child should you interfere with a fever, that's his philosophy and I tend to agree for my child.

I think antibiotic prescription has more to do with individual doctors than regions. Our last doctor's office in this region had a doctor in that practice with an awful reputation that wouldn't prescribe antibiotics EVER under any circumstance. He wanted you to pray it away.
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By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:27 PM
I've been so lucky with t not being sick but a coworkers son has been on antibiotics at least 5 times in 2 years and is sick all the time.

We don't have a separate waiting room at my doctors office.

I try to avoid the doctors as much as possible for both of us. Its just when we really need to go.
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By PogMoGilliesmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 3157, member since Tue Apr 24, 2007
On Tue Jan 08, 2013 01:04 AM
We did put Alex on antibiotics once so far- he had a diaper rash that would not go away, with raised white bumps, and the doctor took one look at it and said "That's strep." He'd had it for over two weeks.
He was on 10 days of antibiotics, and it finally faded away.

Our doctor doesn't seem to be the type to dose everything, so I'm pretty confident they won't over perscribe.
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By kandykanePremium member Comments: 16415, member since Mon May 01, 2006
On Tue Jan 08, 2013 01:24 AM
Certain illnesses require antibiotics. They don't just 'go away' on their own. Strep is a perfect example. Untreated strep can lead to scarlet fever, rheumetic fever and heart or kidney damage. Staph also should not just be left to clear up on its own. Not only would a parent be putting their kid at risk but they are also exposing others to the infections. So, in cases like that antibiotics are the best course.

kk~
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By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Tue Jan 08, 2013 02:23 AM
True... I'm not totally against antibiotics but def feel they are over prescribed. They should be used sparingly.

I did have one Dr tell me strep throat would resolve itself and to take cloraseptic... he was an ent. I went through a whole summer of strep.
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By majahayes Comments: 92, member since Mon Dec 01, 2008
On Sun Jan 13, 2013 04:48 PM
I'm not sure about in general where I live. Personally I only take them to the doctor if I think its something serious, also my mom is a nurse so I can ask her opinion on whether she thinks its worthy of a doctor visit. My daughter is almost four and has only been on antibiotics once, she was a bout a year and half and had an ear infection. That's also the only time she's been to the doctor for anything besides her well baby appointments and vaccines. I do feel that they are perscribed too readily, and that it contributes to resistent strains, that then require stronger antibiotics.
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By tumblebugPremium member Comments: 10100, member since Fri Mar 29, 2002
On Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:30 AM
Edited by tumblebug (25049) on 2013-01-13 11:31:07
I am VERY lucky that my 9 year old daughter has never had a bacterial infection/illness and has never been on antibiotics. Her pediatrician is very meticulous in his work and very much against the over-prescribing of antibiotics. I've trusted his expertise and he has a two year wait list. I bypassed the wait list due to going to him directly when I worked at the hospital that he frequents to do rounds. I told him the story of my two sons and told him I was pregnant and he is the only person I trusted to take care of my child and he accepted her immediately. He is the most sought after pedi in this area and I'm very thankful that my daughter's health is in good hands.
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By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:46 PM
After 5 days of no improvement and a low grade fever we took Teresa to the drs... I kinda felt a bit defeated calling the Dr but I knew I had no choice.

She has an ear infection and a croupy cough. But now she's on antibiotics for 10 days. The cough was so bad she vomited at the pharmacy. I'm not thrilled about giving them to her but I know that she wasn't improving.

Hopefully a few days on them will clear some of it.
re: Really just a curiousity... kids and antibiotics (karma: 2)
By CrayolaPremium member Comments: 1549, member since Sat Feb 26, 2005
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 02:06 AM
LlamaLlamaDuck wrote:

Hopefully a few days on them will clear some of it.


I just wanted to mention, not only to the OP, but everyone reading to ensure you continue the course of antibiotics even if your symptoms improve after only a few days. By not following through on the full course, you can develop antibiotic resistance. MRSA and VRE are a few of the more common ones.
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By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 02:10 AM
That is something I'm very anally retentive about.

I've now got it full on myself. Great.
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By hummingbird Comments: 10413, member since Mon Apr 18, 2005
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 03:52 AM
Having lived in Ireland for a number of years I'm not sure when it was common practice to not give out antibiotics to children under the age of 10, but they were being handed out to all and sundry when we lived there. In the UK they were more stringent about their use than in Ireland.
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By Theresamember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 34891, member since Wed May 22, 2002
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 04:53 AM
I'm not sure what's so defeating and "not thrilling" about doing what's right for your kid, I guess. Isn't that what being a mom is about?
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By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:05 PM
Edited by LlamaLlamaDuck (113868) on 2013-01-17 23:29:29
I'm not big on antibiotic use in kids. Its just something that bothers me. I just feel its overdone. If I noticed more of a difference with the over the counter stuff I prob wouldn't have taken her to the Dr at all.

I'm hoping the antibiotics make a difference.

You all know me and going to the Dr. I can't stand it and I guess I feel I'm wasting health care money/ taxpayers money if I don't have something serious. Which comes from 4 years working in a walk in clinic and seeing antibiotics given for every little thing. There is also part of me at times almost feels like I'm wasting the doctors time.

I saw so many people going in for nothing or their kid puked one time that am and coming in at 4 when the kid has been OK all day.
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By Sumayah Comments: 6875, member since Wed Nov 12, 2008
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 06:43 AM
There's also the other side of the story. I've had fairly severe allergies my whole life (the pressure has out blown out my eardrum twice and left with the permanent perforation). I know what happens when I can't get them under control, I absolutely 100% of the time get a sinus infection and that sinus infection leads to an ear infection. And when I get sinus infections it's not just just a little yellowy-green goop I'm blowing out, it's been so bad it was seeping out my tear ducts because it had no other place to go.

I state all this background because some years ago I could tell I was getting a sinus infection, the otc meds were not getting rid of it and I knew I was going to need a course of antibiotics to solve the problem. I went into the after hours clinic and was examined and told to take more otc pills. I told them I was and that I was getting an infection, could I have a course of antibiotics? They said no. They said there was no infection present and wouldn't prescribe them to me. I asked for a prescription decongestant and they said sudefed works just as well and sent me on my way. Well, by the next day my sinus infection had officially hit. That night, running a fever, I went back to the same after hours clinic and got re-examined. They gave me my antibiotics this time. Only, because I had to wait until the whole thing blew up into a huge infection, the ten day course barely did anything. And what was a sinus infection turned into a raging ear infection.

I went back to the after hours clinic (mind you this is the third time I'm paying at least double the normal rates) and they looked in my ear and referred me to a specialist. I make my appointment and go to the ear, nose, and throat specialist who looks in my ear a gasps. The infection was in my ear with the perforated eardrum, it was so bad and so little of my eardrum was intact that he actually said in his entire time as a ENT, he had never seen an ear in such bad shape. I was given eardrops and super-ultra antibiotics and had to undergo hearing testing to see how much hearing I had lost from the whole debacle.

Sometimes, it's worth going to the doctor and getting (demanding) the antibiotics. Sometimes, waiting something out only compounds the problem and makes things worse. You may hate antibiotics, but they have their place, and I guarantee you an ear infection (which is seriously some of the most painful experiences of my life ever) is worth going to the doctor and getting antibiotics. I could also tell you the story of me not getting to a doctor in time for a bladder infection that turned into a kidney infection that I ran a 104 fever with and that turned out. But the point is the same, if you're sick, go to the doctor, that's what they're there for. Poor Teresa, ear infections are so bad at night, I feel horribly for her.
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By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 07:22 AM
Actually at night its been the coughing keeping her up. Less going on tonight. I totally can't sleep though.

I feel bad seeing sick miserable kids sitting in a waiting room.

I had a perforated ear drum as a child but it was from a nurse going q tip happy in hospital.

Its a double edged sword with antibiotics... we know our bodies well. I know when I have strep and usually will start antibiotics before getting the test results if they give me a prescription before because I've had it a million times.

Honestly with Teresa there were moments you would have never known she was sick... usually a few hours after tylenol... than followed by miserable little miss or her wanting to cuddle.

I have a fear of her growing up and being immune to half the antibiotics out there. I know its irrational but I prefer to fight things off where possible on my own.

I might not wait as long to take her to the doctor the next time who knows
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By Odessamember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 11250, member since Tue Feb 26, 2002
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:34 AM
Edited by Odessa (22571) on 2013-01-18 00:37:02 Y U NO MARKUP?
If it's an illness requiring antibiotics that means it's a bacterial infection (ie; not a viral infection like the common cold), and that generally means you can't fight it off on your own.

They're two different things, and letting a bacterial infection go on for days because you're too stubborn to go to the doctor is irresponsible. Imagine how many other people you'd be spreading it to?

I hope Teresa is feeling better soon. It sucks being sick when you're little.

Erin.
::righteous babe::
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By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 08:02 AM
Ear infections can resolve themselves it just takes longer...

I've done my reading too.

Teresa has pretty much been home all week so no we weren't spreading it around. I also thought it was just a cold for the first day or 2. Which is viral.... when she hasn't fought it off as fast as usual I knew it was a bit different.
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By SiyoNqobamember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7113, member since Fri Aug 02, 2002
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 02:26 AM
Edited by SiyoNqoba (34789) on 2013-01-18 02:29:39
I totally understand not wanting your daughter to have antibiotics too often. My parents were the same, in fact my mum said the other day that the first time I took significant antibiotics was when I had strep at the age of 9. Now, when I take antibiotics, they work straight away. So, I do see what you're saying.

But please don't play around with ear infections.

I had recurrent ear infections as a child, which resulted in a perforated ear drum. This needed to be fixed with surgery. The ear drum perforated again, because it was so weak from the infections. It then developed a cholesteatoma, which is a tumor of the middle ear and skull that grows back towards the brain and dissolves bone (and other tissue) on it's way. I was fortunate to only lose two hearing bones and a small amount of other bone around my middle ear. If it had been left, I may have lost parts of my skull, my brain may have been damaged, and eventually I may have died.

I feel a bit bad, because I feel like it seems I'm heaping on you, but when you mentioned your daughter had an ear infection, it just struck a chord with me.

Please don't play around with ear infections. Get them treated as soon as possible.
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By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 01:16 PM
the issue with her too right now is teething... so so many crossovers in symptoms. She's been sticking her hand on that side of her mouth for months.

I was more worried about the cough than anything else becauseiI figured that it was her teething.

She barely coughed all night which was nice.
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By Theresamember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 34891, member since Wed May 22, 2002
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 01:25 PM
James has asthma, and frequently is up all night coughing. I'd say you might want to look in to that too, but if getting her medication for an ear infection is so defeating, then getting her medication that she'll have to take every day will send you in to a tail spin. So maybe it's better you don't look in to it.
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By LlamaLlamaDuckmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member Comments: 7765, member since Sun Nov 21, 2004
On Fri Jan 18, 2013 01:48 PM
Other than what she has now she's never been up coughing.

I would take to the Dr for something chronic.

Its not really a feeling of defeat as much as I hope this is actually more than a cold and worth taking her to the Dr for. I just have a dislike for going to.the doctor. It was kinda more of an oh crap I guess we should go.
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