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Do you think you have to study dance in a major city if you want a career?
By oz_helenmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member
On Thu Apr 15, 2004 09:41 PM


I'm interested to see what people will say about this. Coming from Australia, I know there's a lot of snobbery (for a lack of a better word) here about people from outside of Sydney or Melbourne not being up to scratch - I wonder if it's the same everywhere.

Helen

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re: Do you think you have to study dance in a major city if you want a career?
By Austappermember has saluted, click to view salute photos
On Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:08 PM
NO not at all! You definitely need to have contacts in the big cities because that's where the majority of the work comes from, however some of the strongest tappers (and dancers in general) I know were trained in the country. :)
re: Do you think you have to study dance in a major city if you want a career?
By sunny_blonde
On Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:00 PM
Hey, i'm an aussie too and have been studying in v. small rural town since i was 6, i think maybe to get into good productions etc. you might have to go to the cities, but theres nothing to say teachers in cities are any better. good luck! -xox-
re: Do you think you have to study dance in a major city if you want a career?
By CheesePlusCakemember has saluted, click to view salute photos
On Fri Apr 16, 2004 05:24 PM
No. Noone has heard of where I live unless you live near it and my school has developed professional dancers.
RE: Do you think you have to study dance in a major city if you want a career?
By icurnvs2m8
On Wed Jun 09, 2004 07:02 PM
Most of the better dancers are from country towns. The city dancers learn more types of dance as the availabilty is more accessible but the country dancers are the ones that become more dedicated to their dance as there isn't as many interferences in everyday living.
I think the country dancers are specialist dancers and are great in their field.
City dancers are more well rounded performers, some are really good but get work on thier versatility.

On my knowledge (here in sydney) the people that get the most work aren't from the cities.
re: Do you think you have to study dance in a major city if you want a career?
By glitterfairyPremium member
On Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:29 PM
Edited by glitterfairy (42646) on 2004-06-09 22:34:01
I don't think it's so much the city- I think it's more where the good teachers who promote a good work ethic are that form the 'good student hives'.

icurnvs2m8 stated a very good point. In general (and I'm a sydneysider, so I'm not being biased here) people from out of town had a lot more dedication than city-based dancers. For them, training is often expensive- so there's almost no such thing as a 'lazy recreational dancer'. On the other hand, there are huge amounts of city-based dance students that are extremely slack towards their training and attitude towards dance. This may be due in part to the studio believing that professional dancers make the best teachers (and they aren't always).

There are so many studios in Sydney where it's all about how famous so and so's teacher is (this is where they get their snobbery from). Everybody wants to wear jeans and flannel shirts, and follow the whole tapdog craze- and silly teachers who think that all they have to do is wave their arms around, drop the abs and get their students to give themselves shin splits and knee injuries to achieve the same kind of volume male dancers do. It's ridiculous. Les Griffith would be turning in his grave if he saw what was going on.

a LOT of city dancers are in on the whole 'commercialised' dance stream (not just tap) and a lot of this means jumping a lot of the intense technical work those "commercial dancers" (Tapdogs, hiphop, Commercial Jazz/Funk etc) had to undergo before their teachers even let them try something new. As a result, a lot of city kids aren't learning a lot of technique, or even the classical cross-training that every professional dancer has had in some way, shape or form.

I was just about to name a very well-known Sydney performing arts school, but since that's nasty, shall we just say that a lot of city kids are not getting as good a dance education as they think they are- and if they know, then they don't care, or they just say a lame excuse like "Meh, they're from newcastle" or "Meh, they're from Wollongong". It's actually an adage in one of the places I train- 'the further you more away from Sydney, the better dancers you'll find'.

However this isn't to say that there are no good dancers trained in Sydney- there are- but are fast becoming a minority.
re: Do you think you have to study dance in a major city if you want a career?
By JazzyKK9691
On Mon Jun 21, 2004 06:58 AM
i dont think as a child/ teenager you need to start in a major city but as a college level dancer you might want to take classes in a major city and get your name around. also so you can be in major companies.
otherwise if your a teacher you might want to take a few convention/classes but its not as important
thats my opinion anyways
kk
re: Do you think you have to study dance in a major city if you want a career?
By tiptaptam
On Tue Aug 17, 2004 03:35 PM
I think that more and more dance companies are forming in smaller towns. I know, i tried moving to the city...and I am just not a city person. I am currently trying to form a professional company.... I believe that it will catch on and all the talented dancers will stop moving to the city. I think that is the real problem....they all move to the city after they are trained.... but the city isn't where they were trained.
re: Do you think you have to study dance in a major city if you want a career?
By satapper
On Wed Aug 18, 2004 05:36 AM
Yeah i would have to agree i dont think u need to study in a major city. Its interesting what NVS has said about people being specialised in fields through experience i have come to the conlcusion that the reason for this is that when one dances in a big city and decides to make a carear out of it at a young age they devote all there time dancing (min 18 hours a week) because they have more of a guarentee of finding work in there area. whereas it is very hard to devote 18 hours a week to do something that you have no real guarentee
Sim
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By flapshufflehop
On Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:37 PM
There are college level programs that are not in major cities...so no, I don't think you need to be in one. There is more competition in cities though. I am from Minnesota, and we have 2 universities with dance programs. I could have gotten into the one in the small town right away, but I chose to audition for the city program...which I never did get in. To this day, I kick myself becuase I could have had a degree in dance by now...and probably a career.
re: Do you think you have to study dance in a major city if you want a career?
By webstArmember has saluted, click to view salute photos
On Wed Sep 01, 2004 07:44 PM
Well, from what I've seen living in BC - the better trained dancers are definitly in the lower mainland. Basically from North Van, all the way to around chilliwack, but anything further up north isn't quite the same.

Now, thats not to say no one is good up north, I know an extremely talented male dancer from Kelowna (I think) and there is a big studio in Prince George that had some talented dancers - but other than that, it's mainly here.

Appearantly it was really obvious at provincials where the talent was, because people came from all around to provincials.

I'm not sure why it is, but the lower mainland just tends to be a lot better. However, the population is much higher here, and there are way more studios to attend, and more studios to choose from, so that they get the best training. I'm sure population and the amount of studios would make a big difference anywhere you are.

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