Recently I've seen a lot of pictures posted by people pointing out bad/painful/unsightly technique. (There are a bunch of these about toestands floating around) There are also a lot of dress pictures out there where people comment on how ugly the dress is, or how old fashioned (in a negative way) or something else.

Now I think the posting of other dancers as an example of something not to do need to stop. If you want to post a picture of yourself, then by all means go ahead, but these dancers did not consent to their pictures being posted and critiqued here.

The posting of the dresses is fine, and we're all entitled to our own opinions, but perhaps we should think twice before posting a negative comment about a dress. If you wouldn't want it to be said about your dress, then you'd be better off not saying it. (Once again, if the dress belongs to a member and they ask for you honest feedback, maybe you could find a constructive way to phrase your opinions)


Just something I think we need to keep in mind to respect the other dancers out there. Whether or not they see it is not the issue. We just need to treat them the same way we'd wish the be treated. The golden rule is our friend. =)

:: applause :: Thanks, Erinn!! Kudos to you... can we make this a sticky?

Amenn Sista!! I will only comment about our own

well said! can I give you karma, even if it's on the photos board? (maybe I should go reread that thread...)

if you want to post a 'this is a taco toe stand' type pic, maybe just crop it down so it only shows the foot/feet - honestly, how could anyone identify exactly whose poodle sock and hardshoe it is.

i agree

i have always been against taco toe hunting (i feel like we put pictures on trial)

Thank you for posting this! I completely agree about cutting out any identifying features of a dancer who hasn't consented to being on DDN for critique.

Cheers!
ShyViolet

The number of times this has been posted keeps multiplying, yet no one seems to listen...

Thanks for saying this BigTrebel.

I disagree slightly. Any newbie {to ID and/or DDN}/Olive Hurley tape dancer will probably not think anything of tacoing. Perhaps editing the photo to just from the poodle sock down is in order as suggested above, but if you see some example of ridiculous and/or dangerous technique, I do think others {who might not have an as attentive TC, or no TC at all} can learn from it. I remember one of those McTeggart photos where Katie noticed, after like 10 people had posted, that one of the girls was turning out from the knee. A newbie to ID would probably turn out from the knee {heh, oldbies are guilty of it too *nervous eye dart*} and think nothing of it. Katie said something, we all learn something. Bashing, or hunting for taco posts is probably not a good idea. But a post of bad technique where the dancer's identity is concealed can be a helpful tool in learning.

Hey, I sent the mods a PM, so hopefully we can 'sticky-fy' this awesome little post. Comments, even criticisms, are fine, but only if the identity is obscured, and the comments aren't nasty.

To those who wondered about karma; you can give karma to any post that fits the criteria of being carma-worthy; humerous, helpful insightful, etc. The point is that the post should get the karma, not the picture. If the written words in a post is worthy of karma, knock yourselves loose.

Personally, i gave this post karma, as i found it helpful and insightful.

I think it would be a great idea to cut down the picture to just the feet. That way learning can happen and noone can get offended. I never thought of that. Really good idea! I always felt it to be important to point out technical mistakes that can lead to injury, but this is a better way of doing that.
Also, I think it's one thing to say this move (turning out from the knee or whatever) is dangerous, guys: watch out! or "she needs to lift her leg a bit higher"...
And quite another thing to go "oh yuck that is terribly/disgusting/awful/crap!!!" There are different ways of phrasing it and it is quite possible to criticize technique without being offensive.

As especially the taco toestand "hunt" as some people put it, is getting out of hand, I suggest coming down to facts when commenting, not giving horrified emotional reactions like "woah how awful that looks dreadful". That isn't constructive.
Taco toestands are bad for you, most people got the message, toestands are not the only interesting move around, let's move on to other topics. It's not necessary to post 15 pics of tacoed toestands, asking "isn't this awful?" and having 35 people agree. I myself am not sensitive to being criticized, but I totally agree it would be better to cut anything that might make people recognize the dancer out of the picture before criticizing.

As for dresses, those posts are often even worse. Noone here is incapable (as far as I know) of saying something more constructive that "yeugh" to a dress. How about "the design is not my sort of thing, I prefer less geometrical, but I like the way the red contrasts with the green on the sleeves".....noone can get offended but you have voiced a constructive, thought-through opinion that is worth tenthousand "yeughs".

You go girl! Thanks sooo much. someone really needed to mention that. I've been worried for quite a while here on someone posting a picture of my taco toes. (I have bad toaco toes I do admit. New shoes are comin though)Well, now hopefully I don't have to worrry anymore. Thanks again!


~TrelbleTrouble

Great post! I'm sorry if I've said any bad comments that hurt anybody in any way!

-GG
(P.S. You DEFINETLY get karma!!! )

Reading through some newer posts I just can't believe this sticky is getting ignored already. Dance.net may not be perfect but we really need to take a stand when people's dresses get smashed by the rudest and unthinking comments. We all make comments sometimes that come over wrong and nastier than we meant them. KLet us try to regularly remind ourselves and others that dance.net has always been a very nicer community and we don't want that to change. Let's use a bit of empathy, a bit of common sense, and above all our intelligence, and think three times before we post.

Thank you thank you thank you! I've been thinking the exact same thing...in fact this is kind of like what I mentioned on the Orange Fur post. I think we need to be very careful to protect people's identities...otherwise this becomes a place for gossip, where people's feelings can get hurt. Hopefully everyone will read this and act accordingly!

well said!

wow, I wish I could have been the one who said something. Great job Bigtreble. : D

*clapping* You are so right! People need to think about what they are doing, I've seen some of the posts, they are so mean! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! If I could give you karma, I would! Great Post!

*clapping* You are so right! People need to think about what they are doing, I've seen some of the posts, they are so mean! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! If I could give you karma, I would! Great Post!

I way agree with that. If the people don't realize that their pictures are here, and even if the feedback isn't negative, it's kind of rude...

Lets just stay this girls picture is up here, but she's not a DDN dancer. You want to give her a little constructive criticism, but even if it is helpful, she's never going to get it!

hey rallyhopback, your picy thing looks just like the start of my new jig!! lol

I agree..DDN isn't rude or negative so why the rude and negative comments?? I'm glad someone pointed that out!
Karma to you!

hi

that's a good idea...
yeah!!!