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What to know about being vegetarian
By FatheadEnPointe
On Mon Apr 16, 2007 02:21 PM
Wow this is great! Thank you! I know someone who says she is a vegetarian for the reason of "animal cruelty" but her eating habits are really LOTS of bread, rice, cheese and candy. I think I'll print this out for her. great job!
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By sexxykttn3
On Thu May 10, 2007 07:56 AM
This is a really great advice piece. One thing I thought should have been mentioned is the possible haggling from those who do not understand.

I am from the midwest in the united states and have been vegetarian for about 4 years now. I don't go around and push my views on anyone else, but like anything that is not main stream or "normal", people will not understand and try to talk you out of it. Some people think what I choose it cool, but others think it is "stupid, unhealthy, psycho, etc" I have been made fun of and harassed for my beliefs and choices.

Most of the comments I get are not really mean or hurtful, but they are just more annoying...

So...just to let potential veges out there know: be sure to have your personal reasons known to you and be ready to fight for your choices!!!

Good luck!
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By hylndlasmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member
On Wed Jun 13, 2007 04:03 PM
I found this website tonight....

Not sure how good the info actually is....but I found some of it to be rather interesting.
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By DeStijlmember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member
On Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:36 PM
Thanks for this post, it was an informing and interesting read.

Im thinking about becoming lacto-ovo and cutting out meat from my diet, but I wasnt feeling particualry inspired, and I didnt really know where to start.

I was bought up on steak and chicken, and its been such a staple in my diet for so long I hardly notcie it. 4 years ago I stopped eating every kind of meat apart from chicken, steak just began to taste rancid and horrible and now I cant stmoach beef. (I never ate fish.) - But I've put off being meat free for ages because I think "well what can I cook?" - but you're right, my local supermarket has an entire asile dedicated to meat subtitutes/vego friendly fillers, I am going to a vegetrain grocery shop this afternoon :D

Karma for you :)
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By OnstageForevermember has saluted, click to view salute photos
On Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:45 AM
I've been vegetarian (pesci-vegetarian, if you're being picky,) all my life. Both of my parents are, so when I was younger, I just ate what they fed me, and that was that. When I got a bit older, and started eating outside of the house by myself, I decided to be "rebellious" by tasting chicken. I didn't really like it, and now I'm vegetarian on my own terms. I think I'm a lot healthier because of it. I currently eat a very small amount of free-range fish (maybe once a week, if that,) and am toying with the idea of giving that up as well.
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By happeningfish
On Sun Jul 22, 2007 04:17 PM
Great, great post.

I was a veg for 12 years but have gone back to the dark side. No regrets either way, and I applaud anybody who makes conscious choices about whatever they eat instead of just reaching for the Chee-tos. One bit of advice I thought I'd add:

Dinner table etiquette!
One thing I learned when I was vegetarian, is that the vast majority of occurrences of the question "So why are you a vegetarian?" are over a meal, often with a group of people. I learned the hard way that it's really not nice to get into that conversation when you're eating, especially because even though the person who asked the question might be okay with hearing about factory farming while chowing down on a steak, the person sitting next to them might be put off their food, and I don't think that's very nice. So I used to say, very politely, "If you really want to know, I'll tell you after dinner." This seemed to work really well.

Dealing with People Who Wave Ham Sandwiches in Your Face:
From little brothers to just random people who think they're funny, I can't believe how many people would wave meat in my face and say "mmmm !" I mean, really!
So I don't have a foolproof way of averting this, but I remember once a colleague of mine, who happens to be gay, did the old Ham Sandwich Yum-Yum Attack and I finally said "you know, that's like me bringing you a bunch of straight porn and shoving it in your face and breathing heavy." And he stopped for a second and laughed and said "you're totally right. I'm sorry, I never thought about how rude that was!"
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By dancer3434
On Sun Jul 29, 2007 07:05 PM
Thanks for the great post. I just wanted to add that Trader Joe's grocery store has lots of great products for vegetarians. Try it out!
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By Greenleafmember has saluted, click to view salute photos
On Mon Jul 30, 2007 09:48 PM
Amazing post! I've been lacto-ovo for 6 years and I'm 16 now. For a while, I was a veg without eating healthily, mostly due to the meals prepared by my parents and my tight schedule (lots of carbs, sweets, etc.). Lately however, I've been eating much better (with a brief reprieve while at Gov. School for the Arts, awful cafeteria choices--lots of carbs--where I gained two pounds back) and have noticed a change in my health and my weight. These tips will make staying a healthy veg even easier!

However, one question:

What about making the transition between lacto-ovo and vegan? It's not so much animal rights that is making me do this, but my health and weight. I'd like to pursue a more "clean" diet, plus I am (hopefully) starting ballet again fall quarter and I'd like to be a few pounds lighter than I am now. Any tips? What about making my mom realize that I'm not trying to starve myself, or whatever, being vegan? That it is possible to cook for a vegan (or that I can cook vegan meals for myself) while the rest of the family remains meat eaters?

Any advice would be helpful. I am also "googling" it.
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By XOShortyDaNcEr
On Fri Aug 10, 2007 09:00 PM
I am one myself. Ive been one for a few months and its one of the best choices Ive made so far! =) like I have a lot more energy. My health is gonna be great later on. And I have been loosing weight and slimming down. Everyone should atleast try it for a month I feel like a billion times helthier and better ever since I cut out meat and eggs .
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By contortionmylife
On Fri Aug 31, 2007 08:29 PM
Great post, im a vegetarian and this is very helpful!
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By DancingAngel925member has saluted, click to view salute photos
On Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:43 AM
How much weightloss is normal when one becomes vegetarian? I've lost about 5 pounds, so now I want to gain those 5 back, and gain another 5.
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By KayEllePremium member
On Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:02 PM
Well, in theory, you shouldn't be losing weight at all if that wasn't your intention. Weight loss means you're not eating enough calories (no worries, when making the switch, it's not hard to accidentally get fewer calories than you need!). Add some more healthy fats into your diet, like nuts and seeds, and plant oils. Fats are very calorie-dense, so it's an easier way to get more calories.
re: What to know about being vegetarian (karma: 1)
By tanecnik
On Mon Nov 05, 2007 05:17 PM
I have been a vegan for about two years, and I love that it is a healthy choice for not only me, but animals and the environment. I just wanted to add that although supplements can be good, it is best to get the needed vitamins and nutrients from your food because the body can absorb them easier. Also, if you do take a multivitamin be sure to take it with food in your stomach as many vitamins will not absorb if there is no fat in the stomach.
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By XOShortyDaNcEr
On Thu Nov 15, 2007 06:35 PM
oh I'm a vegetarian and Ive been one for 6 months now. I eat foods from Morning star and drink silk chocolate soy milk yummm!!!!

for morning star I like Veggie corn dogs,Chikn patties,sausage petties. Of course all this is not real meat. Its healthier 75%less fat and cutting meat out gave me more energy and with working out I lost like 5-10 pounds in a month! GO VEG!!!! =)
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By renthead883
On Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:57 AM
I've been a vegetarian for about 7 months now, but my parents do not approve of it. At first, I was eating all the wrong things-- THEN i found fake meat. I love it and you'd be suprised what you can do with it. I will on occasion eat fish- yes some will argue that i'm not a vegetarian then. But my personal belief is that some seafood is not bad to eat, plus my mom makes me eat it on occasion. I'll probably eventually cut out fish from my diet, though. I love this thread though, its a great idea!
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By hfaye09
On Mon Mar 03, 2008 07:30 PM
JUST BE REALLY CAREFUL! i was a vegetarian for a year and a month but noticed weight gain and i was never full. just be sure to get sufficient protein substitutes.
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By clairebear16
On Fri Mar 21, 2008 05:04 PM
I've been vegetarian for about 2 years (lacto-ovo to be specific), and I've found that since giving up meat I eat alot more chocolate, which I think is due to a possible lack of iron (please correct me if I'm wrong). I take iron tablets, but the packet says to take 2 3 times a day with food... that seems like alot to me, but I wouldn't really know. I want to try to give up chocolate, as I really do overdose on junk food :)
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By grace_kelly
On Mon Mar 31, 2008 05:49 AM
Edited by grace_kelly (179677) on 2008-03-31 05:54:03
well I'm the kind that eats fish and some seafood (I'm allergic to some). I was actually a lacto ovo until my parents made me eat at least seafood, because they said that as a growing child, I needed some 'meat. so I agreed. and till this day, I still eat fish... and I DENY that I'm vegetarian, but my friends keep calling me one!

in some ways I thank my parents, or I wouldn't be tall enough(lol,maybe!) and I wouldn't know the joys of fish n chips! ha ha...

as for stuff like getting iron and protein, eat more dark green leafy vegetables like spinach, etc. for iron! and for protein, eat beans... baked beans, soybeans, eggs (with the yolk. not too much though! you don't wanna get high cholesterol). if you don't get enough, it's essential that you take supplements to ensure that you don't become anaemic or whatsoever!!! a couple of months ago I fainted while I was on my part-time job, and the first-aid nurse told me I could be anaemic... (well, but after seeing the doc, I wasn't. it was probably just a heat-stroke or so).. phew, what a scare.

by the way, I have this whole extended family that's vegetarian, and apparently, everybody thinks they look younger than they actually are. so it seems that being vegetarian not only could extend your life expectancy, it also keeps you looking young! wow.

this is a very interesting topic!
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By gummibearz911
On Fri Apr 04, 2008 08:34 AM
I'm a Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian!
For over one year! Haha I started when I was 13.
I'm 15 now.

But the only time I eat eggs is if they are baked into something.
Maybe I'm just a Lacto-Vegetarian?

My doctor told me to be careful about eating too much dairy.
It is supposed to be easier for vegetarians to become lactose intolerant if they eat too much of it.
That has actually happened to me a few times, but then I stopped eating dairy for a while and I was fine.

Another thing he told me is if you want to go back to eating meat, its going to be like a poison to your body.
Since you have lost the enzymes to break it down, it will make you very sick. ¡Cuidado!
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By scottdancer94member has saluted, click to view salute photos
On Wed Apr 23, 2008 07:54 PM
I have been seriously been thinking about going veg. but something pulls me back. It is sad how they are killed in the slaughter house but ain't working for me.

Also (just got done watching the cattle video on one of the sites forgot which) Were did they find that auction? I mean I have been to one in my town. The cattle is perfectly healthy. Also they are on a lead rope kinda thing (like to show a horse) oh they can walk fine to. No diseases either. Perfectly fine. That goes for the pigs to. Goats to. I am sure it happens no doubt about it but not in my part of the world.

Like no offense to any vegetarian but I am kinda getting tired of seeing the adds everywhere. I mean really no offense but it is sicking. Really it is! In magazines, TV and posters. I find nothing wrong with you guys but don't force it on us. If anyone gets upset let me apologize now because the last thing I want to do is fight. And, like I said, been thinking about it. But not vegan, probably have to start slow anyway.
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By behappy_dancemember has saluted, click to view salute photos
On Mon Jun 23, 2008 03:19 PM
Wow this is great! I wasn't at all interested in the post when I was looking at the boards but then I read it and thought, wow this could really help other people. Great job!
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By ballet_13ellie
On Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:53 AM
This is a great article, thanks for posting it! I am a vegetarian myself, and I TOTALLY agree with this article!
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By gummibearz911
On Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:52 AM
Edited by gummibearz911 (134123) on 2008-07-01 11:57:05
I dont necessarily agree with the thought that those who eat fish cannot be vegetarians.
People are vegetarians for different reasons.
I personally am not a vegetarian for the sake of animals, but rather because I am completely disgusted by the thought of eating meat. The whole thought of where it comes from makes me want to gag c]=.
I do not currently eat fish, however I have considered weaning it into my diet for health reasons. I know that my body is extremely deficient of protien and it is actually affecting the strength of my hair.

So therefore, I dont believe you can limit calling someone a vegetarian based on the idea that everyone is a vegetarian because they don't want to kill animals. Because that is untrue and I dont think that is fair. There are many types of vegetarians, lacto-ovo, lacto ect. and I dont see why you couldn't eat fish and still be a vegetarian. UNLESS you are a vegan. Then you can point fingers as much as you want.
re: What to know about being vegetarian
By KayEllePremium member
On Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:45 PM
Nobody's pointing fingers. A vegetarian is someone who doesn't eat animals, straight up, and a fish is an animal. Therefore, someone who eats fish is not a vegetarian. It doesn't mean their diet is any better or worse than mine.

On another note, there are plenty of ways to get protein without eating fish, if you're interested. Tofu, TVP, beans, lentils, dairy and eggs (if you eat those) all have tons of protein. Another easy way to get a good amount of protein is using soy-based protein powder and mixing it into smoothies.
re: What to know about being vegetarian (karma: 1)
By Snuffymember has saluted, click to view salute photosPremium member
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 05:31 AM
Edited by Snuffy (189942) on 2008-07-04 05:40:56 I don't make much sense!
I was surprised to find that so many people take issue with the fact that vegetarian means that you don't eat fish.

I get the sense that (some) people who eat no meat aside from fish have a problem with this because they think that the rest of the vegetarians are looking down on them or something, or accusing them of being less of a vegetarian. Of course, nobody is accusing fish-eaters of being less vegetarian; they're simply not vegetarian per se, plain and simple. And it's not that vegetarians are saying that to be mean; it's that, like KayElle says, vegetarians do not eat animals, and fish are animals.

Vegetarianism isn't a little club where we all get together and judge other people, and exclude those who eat fish from our club. It's not a club; it's just a choice that some people make. Okay, SOME vegetarians might judge, but some vegans will too, and of course, plenty of non-vegetarians will be judgemental too. That's just the way things are. But yeah, the "you're not a vegetarian if you eat fish" isn't something that vegetarians say to make people feel excluded or less of a person or anything like that at all. It's simply that if you think that eating fish is part of vegetarianism, then you are wrong about what vegetarianism is. And I am saying this with a calm voice and the utmost of respect to anyone who might have got a little confused about the definition of vegetarian. :)

Here's is why vegetarians are bothered by it when people eat fish and claim to be vegetarian: it's a misuse of the term, and I guess that gets to some vegetarians when they're specifically against the consumption of animals. That's fair enough, when you think about it.

It's a bit like if I were to go around claiming to be a vegan, despite that I eat eggs and dairy products. I can claim to be vegan until the cows come home (fittingly enough, LOL!), but the fact is, veganism means one does not eat animals OR animal by-products. So it just wouldn't make sense for me to claim something like that. As such, you won't hear me claiming to be vegan. ;)

Pseudo-vegetarian, almost-vegetarian, aspiring-vegetarian, pesci-vegetarian, etc. These terms are all fine if you eat fish but aside from that have a vegetarian diet.

Nobody in their right mind is trying to get people to use particular terms to create any kind of hierarchy; it's just that if you say one thing and do another, then it's confusing and kind of hypocritical. You wouldn't claim to be a doctor if you're really an engineer; it's the same thing. People take different words to mean specific things, and using one word and doing otherwise is contradictory. Things like vegetarianism are important to a lot of people who follow it, so it bothers them when people use the term wrongly. That's all it comes down to. Sometimes it's an overreaction to be bothered by it, and other times it's justified to point out to someone that, actually, it means something different to what they're implying.

If you're a vegetarian, then you don't eat animals. If you eat fish, then you're not actually a vegetarian per se. It's a matter of semantics, and not that there's any vegetarian secret society out there to judge and exclude anyone. :)
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