Modern Dance is being re-defined as contemporary and ballet choreography is using more contemporary movement to attract new audiences.
I take dance at school where we do some modern and contemporary and for our concerts I always audition some kind of contemporary dance=]
And at my studio all I took was Ballet, but I'm asking my mom if I can sign up for Ballet/Contemporary.
Also I'll try to take some master classes or conventions that offer that style too! Haha I think I found my calling =]
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Sorry,but no matter what I'd never give up on ballet.
Edited by EvaEvaS (236964) on 2011-06-15 08:53:51
I think I don't have enough good English to explain everything what I would like, but I will try.
I don't want to say that I don't like modern or that it's poor. cause I also liked my modern classes. ButI think that it is best when it have some connection with classic.
Just.. Where are any theaters of Graham, Limon etc? Duncan..?? What are famous spectacles in this style, having wide public? Or schools with own modern syllabubs (prestigious!) making certificated, professional dancers every year? And (nowadays!) really famous dancers, like some classical are?
No, I don't think there really are this level modern dance centers...
Just - someone had invent for example bicycle and there is no way to make absolutely new bicycle, absolutely another. There is only possibility to make some improved, more efficent, with new look. But it will be still and forever bicykle. The same is about the dance. (little methapor)
But there is a lot of great contemporary spectacles where choreography includes some modern movements and its way of expression. Cause that is modern: movements and manner of expressionm but not 'school'. So, taht is someting great what is making dance culture richer.
WHAT I WANT TO SAY IN CONCLUSION WITH CONNECTION TO OUR TOPIC:
There are no just classical or contemporary, or modern dancers, but just - dancers, at all. The different between them is their talent - some are more effectively in one 'dance styles'. Real dancer should have full background - should be trained in any 'theatrical' dance style and next choose what is his/her best side in dancing...
So, there is a lot of myths about modern dance... And I think it fallows from strange public concept about modern, what is always standing as something disconected form classic... Maybe taht is even some of modern dance artists fault.
If we are going to talk about Modern Vs Ballet, perhaps someone would like to create a post on the debate board?
In the first place, there ARE schools that teach modern dance in the U.S. The Martha Graham School in NYC for one. Martha Graham also had a company, and as far as I know it still exists. Limón Company still exists, as does the Mark Morris Dance Company, Merce Cunningham company, Paul Taylor Co. and David Parsons Company. Louis Falco Company also existed in NYC and although the company disbanded before his death, the repertoire is still performed today. These are all modern dance companies. Horton, when alive had his own company and school (for adult dancers not children) in California. Alvin Ailey used to take classes there, and the Alvin Ailey Company still exists in NYC and is the most viable and well known (in terms of the 'general public' modern dance company in the U.S. They also have a school which trains both children and adults.
In universities in the U.S. modern dance thrives and all these styles are taught. I took modern dance BEFORE taking ballet and knowing ballet was NOT necessary to do it. The technique we were taught was that originated from Denis/Shawn and passed through to Limón. We did not use a barre in most of the classes--although some teachers did, but others used a warm-up done standing in center. Others used a floor warm-up. There was definitely a "technique" to it. I took one class that was based on Graham technique and it was quite different. There was NO barre used and was a floor warm-up. Contractions are intrinsic to Graham technique and those are not used in some other forms of modern.
I don't have any problem with dancers distinguishing themselves by the type of dance they do. There are simply some people who specialize in ballet, some in modern, some in jazz, some in tango, some in flamenco, some in Irish. There is nothing wrong with that and I disagree with your statement that the difference is "talent." No, the difference is TRAINING. To be a professional and at the top of the game in ANY dance genre you must be talented and you must be well trained. The difference between ballet and modern is the training (and in some cases the body).
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Removed by Theresa (28613) on 2011-12-08 19:45:43 You need to take questions like that to a trained medical professional, you can not ask them here.
I've come to the conclusion that while the strict standards of Ballet are offputting, I may as well do it anyway. I've thought about modern as a supplement to Ballet to give myself a bit more variation but if it's going to be even harder it's probably pointless.
No insult to those who do modern, just from the point of view from an older beginner I don't see a reason to do it and it seems a bit dumb that there ISN'T a more prominent school of dance that's a bit more flexible in terms of standards.
While i definitely think modern is difficult (and I look so awkward trying to attempt anything that isn't just classical ballet), I don't think it's right to argue that modern dancers have aesthetic requirements as rigorous as ballet. modern dancers must be muscular. ballet dancers must be lean, muscular, with long limbs, long necks, small heads, short torsos, arched feet, lots of turnout, back flexibility, etc.
i've had many modern teachers at my preprofessional school. the overwhelming majority have been EXTREMELY strong dancers. however, all but 1 of the 5 were former preprofessional ballet dancers who chose modern because they felt they weren't the right fit for ballet. 2 lacked turnout, 1 was a bit too large, 1 has EXTREMELY flat feet. that's the truth
i'm not arguing they're not talented. but modern dancers simply don't face the same standards. people can begin training in modern when they're in their late teens (if they've already been talking ballet), and join a modern company just a year or 2 later. to be a female ballet dancer, one must train for 7-10 years in general
If this is true I might reconsider quite a bit.
It depends what's defined as "Modern" dance? Like at the moment I'm getting involved with a sort of interpretative dance project, and there are 5 professional dancers involved as well. I'm curious as to what they're actually doing and what it would be classed as, but there does seem to be a lot of different sort of dance going on that's at the very least quite similar to modern but with less strict requirements.
I never had the option of being a professional ballet dancer, but I still really want to do Ballet. However I am looking for other ways on which to capitalise on that experience, because I want to use what I will have or what I intend to spend years building.
it seems like there are alternative productions out there, like the one I'm involved in, where you can use a discipline in various forms of dancer, especially ballet(I know one of the pro dancers in the group is a ballet dancer, it seems to lend itself well to artsy kind of projects), to perform with a "Professional" dance group, just not a ballet company.
This is what I'm going to aim for. So I guess to those who have been looking to do modern because they can't make something of themselves with ballet - consider sticking to ballet, or exploring any other style you want, and look around for alternative dance projects you can get involved in.
Chances are, if you can dance, someone will want to want you. And these sort of projects(at least the one I'm involved in) can be a lot more fun than being a "professional" too.
My shoulders are sore beyond belief after 1.5 hrs yesterday...and i appreciate being able to 'let go' (tho i love the structure of classical ballet). i think its great for balancing out a strictly-ballet ballet dancer mentally and physically!!
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