re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By kandykane  Comments: 14869, member since Mon May 01, 2006On Tue Nov 29, 2011 04:14 PM
Edited by kandykane (157761) on 2011-11-29 16:18:17
Hey, know! If I have to get DDN clearance for trips and doctor appointments, then you have to get clearance for hair appointments!  Ta.
EDIT: Oh, and bathroom visits. Those must also be cleared. *nods*
kk~ |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By Heart   Comments: 14492, member since Thu Feb 14, 2002On Tue Nov 29, 2011 04:23 PM
Right, because every instance is totally reported. Because pitbull breeders running a puppy mill in Camden who dump their runts out on the street would definitely inform the authorities if a dog bit someone.
Sorry, kk, I was too busy taking a crap and then coming on here and writing a post about taking a crap to answer any of your points.
Ta! |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By kandykane  Comments: 14869, member since Mon May 01, 2006On Tue Nov 29, 2011 04:31 PM
May I offer you some.....
Or maybe just.....
kk~ |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By panic   Comments: 10603, member since Thu Dec 16, 2004On Tue Nov 29, 2011 05:22 PM
As long as we're offering. Here y'go...
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re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? (karma: 1)
en>fr fr>en By kandykane  Comments: 14869, member since Mon May 01, 2006On Tue Nov 29, 2011 05:25 PM
If you have nothing relevant to say on this topic, scoot away little boy!
But thanks, I'll save that ^ for your Christmas stocking.
kk~ |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By Dream_chaser  Comments: 24006, member since Thu Jul 26, 2001On Tue Nov 29, 2011 07:49 PM
I guess that we all must specify, here, that it was unprovoked by the person who WAS attacked. I think MOST of us understood that, d4j. Thank God your husband is okay. That's the most important thing.
I hope that the owners do the right thing. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By imadanseur  Comments: 15029, member since Thu Dec 04, 2003On Tue Nov 29, 2011 08:04 PM
Oh I have much to say, and would love to respond...but I am busy finishing dinner, doing lesson plans, and then I'm off to bed.
toodles. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By kandykane  Comments: 14869, member since Mon May 01, 2006On Tue Nov 29, 2011 08:27 PM
You guys are all such a hoot!!!  I had a professor in college that used to say there was still free entertainment, you just had to look for it! Glad we could lighten up. Well, some/part/most of us?? Ah, well, there's always hope.
kk~ |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By panic   Comments: 10603, member since Thu Dec 16, 2004On Tue Nov 29, 2011 08:32 PM
But thanks, I'll save that ^ for your Christmas stocking. I would love to get a Christmas douche in my stocking! I always wanted one so I could use the dispenser for salad dressing. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By kandykane  Comments: 14869, member since Mon May 01, 2006On Tue Nov 29, 2011 08:36 PM
Ba ha ha ha!!!!! Your guests will LOVE it!!
Woot.
Hey.... question. Is it tootles? Or toodles? I've seen it both ways and I've always wondered.
kk~ |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By AlwaysOnStage  Comments: 6625, member since Sun Apr 18, 2004On Tue Nov 29, 2011 08:53 PM
Toodles, as in too-da-loo!
Relevance. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By Heart   Comments: 14492, member since Thu Feb 14, 2002On Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:31 AM
Edited by Heart (21721) on 2011-11-30 00:32:40
Toodles. Tootles implies tooting, which is something else ENTIRELY... but may indeed be going on in this thread.
Now excuse me, I have to go trim my underarm hair... |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By Dream_chaser  Comments: 24006, member since Thu Jul 26, 2001On Wed Nov 30, 2011 09:13 AM
Heart wrote:
Toodles. Tootles implies tooting, which is something else ENTIRELY... but may indeed be going on in this thread.
Now excuse me, I have to go trim my underarm hair...
Ok, that was funny. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By d4j   Comments: 11479, member since Fri Aug 27, 2004On Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:19 AM
Edited by d4j (104724) on 2011-12-01 11:21:10
UPDATE:
Heard back from Animal Control today.
Turns out that the quarantine was an in-house one. So we thought they had taken the dog but it was quarantined in the house this whole time.
We found out they their dogs were not licensed so they were cited for that.
What they have to do now:
1) They must keep the two other dogs separate from the pit/boxer.
2) The town does not require that the dog be put down at this point. But the pit/boxer must be kept downstairs in the home. They have a two-story home and the front door is on the second floor. Since the owner cannot control the dog from getting out the front door, it must live downstairs where it can be closed off. Basically there needs to be a door between the dog and the front door.
3) The town will provide a list of trainers to the owners.
4) There is a file now on the dog and the owners.
5) We must file a separate nuisance claim to address the barking.
6) They said the owners were amenable to the requirements. I guess we just have to trust that they will keep that dog under control. That's all we can do at this point.
7) Oh - they are still allowed to leave their dogs out in the yard while they are at work. There is no law against that. We haven't seen the dogs, so I don't know if they will go back to doing that. I hope not because I don't feel secure about them not getting out. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By kandykane  Comments: 14869, member since Mon May 01, 2006On Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:26 AM
I'm guessing you wish you lived in my state at this point.
However, the dog(s) was/were given due process and now with a record, every time you call, the file grows. It is your right to keep an eye on the situation next door.
And why am I not surprised that the dogs were not registered?
kk~ |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By d4j   Comments: 11479, member since Fri Aug 27, 2004On Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:34 AM
And why am I not surprised that the dogs were not registered?
Yea, they lied to our face when they came over to our house and said the dogs were licensed. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By Christine  Comments: 4457, member since Wed Feb 04, 2009On Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:07 PM
D4j I'm glad things are progressing. Here, it often takes months and months for anyone to get around to doing something.
Is your husband feeling better or is he still a bit shaken?
Somewhat of a hijack...
Hummingbird posted this. I'm out of karma today but I'll be back tomorrow to sprinkle some around this post.
Just had to share it here.
www.dance.net . . .
Keep On Dancing* |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By houndrfriend  Comments: 564, member since Tue Aug 17, 2004On Mon Dec 19, 2011 06:54 AM
In summary,it was an unprovoked attack,the dogs attacked someone on that persons place...if that is true then probably the dogs would be put down in most places,but it should be done without cruelty to the dogs. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By d4j   Comments: 11479, member since Fri Aug 27, 2004On Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:03 AM
Edited by d4j (104724) on 2011-12-19 10:25:57
Another update:
1) The neighbors paid us for the medical bills and extra for the ruined jacket and shirt and a little extra for 'pain and suffering'. So we are square with them and we haven't seen or heard their dogs since this all happened.
BUT an unfortunate development. I was looking out the window yesterday and saw two pit bulls out in the yard, a really big one and a smaller one. No collars or tags. I went out on to my patio and tried to shoo them away by yelling at them. The smaller one was submissive and I could tell he wanted to leave but he didn't move because the bigger one didn't. The bigger one just looked at me and wouldn't budge no matter what I did. That is NOT a good sign. He didn't look aggressive or anything but he just had that 'you talkin' to me?' face like, 'yea, i'll be movin' on when i decide to and not you'. I was about to go get a broom when I heard our neighbor on the other side call them back to his house and they ran off. So it turns out that our OTHER neighbors, who are new, ALSO have pits and let them run loose (which is illegal here).
WHAT IS IT with people and big, scary dogs just letting them run around? I know I live in a rural area, but that doesn't mean you get to act like it's the Wild West. Hubby is pretty bummed that there are more dogs to worry about. We wanted to go over and meet the neighbors but now we are afraid to even walk on to their property to do so and even if we do we would have to talk to them about their dogs. Not a good way to start off a neighborly relationship. Urgh. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By YumYumDoughnut  Comments: 6531, member since Sat Jul 10, 2004On Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:08 AM
Edited by YumYumDoughnut (99333) on 2011-12-19 10:11:14
Can your husband carry pepperspray? I know that some cops use pepperspray on dogs, when they need to get to a house and there are dogs in the yards who are aggressive. ( I guess some actually shot a dog before in a emergency situation, but I don't recommend that) I heard they spray it right in their nose, and it gives them enough time to run to the house. I'm not sure if the cops use the regular kind or the Canine kind, I will ask next time I see my BF.
The canine one is apparently "more humane", but I'm not sure if you want to be more humane when you have a dog attacking you. I would personally just use the regular kind that I carry around anyways.
I have linked the canine kind, if you cared about a humane style of spraying them.
www.milestonesafety.com . . . |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By Tunie  Comments: 1582, member since Mon Aug 08, 2005On Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:48 AM
d4j, definitely report your new neighbors now, before another accident happens, whether it be in your family or someone else's. The dog is not necessarily dangerous, but you shouldn't take the risk. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By hummingbird Comments: 6213, member since Tue Apr 19, 2005On Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:29 PM
You need to report those neighbours, people who have animals need to stay within the letter of the law. You've got one neighbour now being responsible, this one needs to be prodded to be responsible too.
I've always had dogs and grew up with big dogs too, I don't understand people who let dogs run lose either, big or otherwise. |
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re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By mandakp Comments: 566, member since Fri Aug 05, 2011On Mon Dec 19, 2011 05:39 PM
I would definitely report them! You're going to regret not doing it if one of you gets attacked again. |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By kandykane  Comments: 14869, member since Mon May 01, 2006On Mon Dec 19, 2011 07:26 PM
Report them NOW. Before something bad happens.
kk~ |
re: Should a Dog Who Attacked a Human be Put Down? en>fr fr>en By SoloJazzDancer Comments: 13919, member since Wed Jun 30, 2004On Tue Jan 10, 2012 08:56 PM
Wow, you guys can get pretty worked up over this! Not that I'm saying it isn't valid.
DJ4, I'm glad to hear your husband is doing better. Dog attacks and bites can be scary at best and at worst, if the dog has rabies, well, we all know how that can be and end up.
I'm only 4'6" now at 57 so I was always the smallest kid growing up. My dad has movies of me coming home from the hospital and all you can see is blanket. My mom had to move the blanket to see me. I don't remember how old I was but it was in the early 60's or so. My grandmothers best friend owned a cottage/house on the beach in CT and we would go and stay for a week. They had a big family and plenty of bed rooms and places to sleep. The lady who lived a few doors down had a huge German Shepherd. All it did all day was walk around the outside of her house. All day long from what I heard and saw. I mean all I ever saw it do was patrol the house, like it was guarding it. I was walking to the store which wasn't to far and my parents let me go by myself. Remember the era. Anyway, their house was set way back on the road and I was in the gutter, not on their property or in the middle of the road. As I was walking by their house, the dog charges for me! I start to run and the dog runs after me for a min. or 2. I am terrified! That dog was way bigger than I was and maybe today, on it's hind legs, it would still be bigger than I was. I didn't get bit or anything and it didn't run very far because then it would have been to far from it's house but it did chase me. I've always been leery of big dogs ever since.
A friend of mine had a big dog. I can't remember the breed but it was big and on it's hind legs it was taller than me. I am over his house and the dog takes a liking to me, at least that's what my friend says. The dog gets on it's hind legs and tries to jump on me! I almost fell backwards on his paved driveway and if someone hadn't caught me, I would have hit my head and who knows what would have happened. That's when he says "Rover likes you" (I don't remember his exact name.) "I say "If I fall and hit my head I will have to sue you." He is laughing like this is funny. Yeah, how funny will it be if I get hurt?
I had a 2 dogs. We had to give one away because a friend of my mom's was horribly allergic and couldn't come over our house. When we got the second dog, she wasn't coming over much anymore so it wasn't a problem. We also had a cat. The dog we had for 17 years was part poodle, part Chihuahua. She looked like the real dog they used for the movie Lady & The Tramp, not the cartoon dog. The only time she ever got aggressive was when our neighbors daughter would come over. That was when she would be rough w/my dog because she was that way w/her dog. That's how they played w/her dog. We didn't play w/my dog that way so when she was poking her in the eyes or trying to, the dog would growl. She was little and I had to tell her not to do that. We finally had to put the dog in a room when she was over.
I'm just glad that big dog didn't scar me a real lot or we never could have had a dog in my house. I hope all those who have been traumatized by a dog get some kind of relief. I love animals as much as the next person, but I did not treat any of my animals like they were my human babies like I see some people do. If my dog had every bitten my neighbors daughter, we probably would have had to put her down. However, it would have been because she was provoked. |