I started teaching one of my classes time steps last night. I only have Al Gilbert levels 1-4, I do not have 5-9. I was tying to find this time step:

Stomp hop step flap step

Double would be:

Stomp hop shuffle step flap step

It was not on the CDs I have. Is it on one of the higher level CDs (5-9)? Is it even an actual time step? Because I thought it was a single buck time step and the one labeled as such is not the same thing. ooo...what is the break for this one? I can't remember.

The regular single time step is:

Shuffle hop step flap step

The break is:

Shuffle hop flap ball change

I have Charles Kelley's Tap Dance Dictionary over at my studio. He lists over 50 time steps.

If you PM me your address I'll copy them and mail them out to you.
(I think the address I have is your address from school before you graduated)

Keep On Dancing*

Christine wrote:

I have Charles Kelley's Tap Dance Dictionary over at my studio. He lists over 50 time steps.

If you PM me your address I'll copy them and mail them out to you.
(I think the address I have is your address from school before you graduated)

Keep On Dancing*

Awesome! I just PMed you

Isn't a double

Stomp, hop, flap, flap, step?

Triple would be

Stomp, hop, shuffle step, flap, step

CarabosseK wrote:

Isn't a double

Stomp, hop, flap, flap, step?

Triple would be

Stomp, hop, shuffle step, flap, step

Yes, you're right. I tend to mix up them up like that (only when trying to write them out, my feet knows the difference my hand does not).

I had to do it under my desk at work

I know that as the stomp timestep. I learned the buck timestep as the same but with a shuffle instead of the stamp, though later my teacher corrected it to the standard timestep:

Single standard/buck? timestep
Shuffle hop step flap step
(add a double, triple, what have you in place of the step)

Break: shuffle hop step shuffle step shuffle hop flap flap

So the stomp single timestep is almost identical:
stomp hop step flap step
(add double, triple, whatever in place of the step)

Break: stomp hop step shuffle step shuffle hop flap flap

I'll preface this with saying I don't have the syllabus that you seem to be working from, so i can't answer your question specifically, but this thread seems to be an interesting cross section of different time steps. So, on that, I'm chiming in. I've always done "buck / stomp" time steps, and I got tired of everyone else's names for them, so I made up my own. I've never gotten to a stage in a tap class to teach them my way or someone else's way. In my mind, there are two places in each time step that sounds get added to, so I have to name both.

"Single Single" Stomp, hop, step, step, step
"Single Double" Stomp, hop, step, flap, step
"Double Double" Stomp, hop, flap, flap, step
"Single Triple" Stomp, hop, step, shuffle step, step
"Double Triple" Stomp, hop, flap, shuffle step, step
"Triple Triple" Stomp, hop, shuffle step, shuffle step, step.

AlwaysOnStage wrote:

I'll preface this with saying I don't have the syllabus that you seem to be working from, so i can't answer your question specifically, but this thread seems to be an interesting cross section of different time steps. So, on that, I'm chiming in. I've always done "buck / stomp" time steps, and I got tired of everyone else's names for them, so I made up my own. I've never gotten to a stage in a tap class to teach them my way or someone else's way. In my mind, there are two places in each time step that sounds get added to, so I have to name both.

"Single Single" Stomp, hop, step, step, step
"Single Double" Stomp, hop, step, flap, step
"Double Double" Stomp, hop, flap, flap, step
"Single Triple" Stomp, hop, step, shuffle step, step
"Double Triple" Stomp, hop, flap, shuffle step, step
"Triple Triple" Stomp, hop, shuffle step, shuffle step, step.

That looks like what my friend called them (well one of her teachers).

This has been a good thread, I very much appreciate the replies. I think part of my problem might me that when I got moved up into a different class they had been doing time steps a lot longer than I had. I figured them out by watching everyone else. So my names for them might be "wrong."

When I was in college the teacher had us do time steps that I hadn't ever done before and didn't give them names. We did a bunch with pick-ups and I think one with a wing.

From unitedtaps.com:
Time Step - Single Traditional *NOT ALPHABETICAL - 8&1 2&3&4&5 6&7& - shuffle HOP step FLAP step

Double Time Step Traditional - 8&1&2&3&4&5&6&7& - shuffle HOP flap FLAP step

Triple Time Step Traditional - 8&1&a2&3&4&5&a6&7& - shuffle HOP shuffle step FLAP step

Quadruple Time Step Traditional - 8&1e&a2&3&4&5e&a6&7& - shuffle HOP shuffle step heel FLAP step

Buck Single Time Step - 8 1 2&3&4 5 6&7& - stomp (some people add a spank after the stomp) HOP step FLAP step

Buck Double Time Step - 8 1&2&3&4 5&6&7& - stomp (some people add a spank after the stomp) HOP flap FLAP step

Buck Triple Time Step - 8 1&a2&3&4 5&a6&7& - stomp (some people add a spank after the stomp) HOP shuffle step FLAP step

Buck Quadruple Time Step - 8 1e&a2&3&4 5e&a6&7& - stomp (some people add a spank after the stomp) HOP shuffle step heel FLAP step

Single Traveling Time Step - 8&1&2&3&4 5 6&7& - shuffle step SHUFFLE BALL CHANGE BALL CHANGE hop STEP shuffle step (some people start it with the hop)

Double Traveling Time Step - 8&1&2&3&4 5&6&7& - shuffle step SHUFFLE BALL CHANGE BALL CHANGE hop FLAP shuffle step (some people start it with the hop)

Triple Traveling Time Step - 8&1&2&3&4 5&a6&7& - shuffle step SHUFFLE BALL CHANGE BALL CHANGE hop SHUFFLE STEP shuffle step (some people start it with the hop)

Quadruple Traveling Time Step - 8&1&2&3&4 5e&a6&7& - shuffle step SHUFFLE BALL CHANGE BALL CHANGE hop SHUFFLE STEP HEEL shuffle step (some people start it with the hop)

Heel Grind Time Step - 1&a2&3&4 5&a6&7&8, 1&a2&3&4&5&6&7&8 - hop SHUFFLE STEP dig STEP spank step, hop SHUFFLE STEP dig STEP spank step, hop SHUFFLE STEP dig STEP spank step, shuffle ball change flap ball change

this is what I learned and teach:

Single stomp/buck: Stomp hop step flap step
Double stomp/buck: Stomp hop flap flap step
Triple stomp/buck: Stomp hop shuffle step flap step
Quad stomp/buck: Stomp hop shuffle step shuffle ball change

Shuffle/standard replaced stomp with shuffle.
Scuffle replaced stomp with scuffle.
Riffle replaces stomp with riffle.

Traveling time steps:
1st: Step shuffle ball change ball change hop step shuffle step.
2nd: Step shuffle ball change ball change hop shuffle step shuffle step
3rd: Shuffle step shuffle ball change ball change hop shuffle step shuffle step

My teacher growing up taught the standard time steps the exact way that Alwaysonstage listed them. You can also change the hop into a pick up, single wing, toe stand, etc. to change it up or make it more challenging.

single = step... double = flap == triple = shuffle step - quadruple = shuffle step heel


Buck Single Time step

Stomp, spank hop step flap step R & L
repeat
repeat
stomp , spank hop step - Shuffle step - shuffle Hop Flap bl ch


Standard Single Time Step

shuffle hop, step flap step R & L
repeat
repeat
Shuffle hop step, shuffle step, shuffle Step, Shuffle bl ch

I love Mr. Gilbert, but he has his own variation, and when I took my DMA tap test, had to go back and completely relearn them correctly.

Other Time Steps that I always try to teach are:

Bojangles Time Step -
Dbl Triple time step -
Ruby Keeler Time Step -
Standard Traveling Time Step
Buck Traveling Time Step
Heel Grind Time Step

Can you post the Ruby Keeler time step? I know I used to know that one, but can't remember it now for the life of me. Thanks!

shuffle, hop hop, flap step -- shuffle hop, step flap step
reverse
repeat
shuffle hop hop..flap step - shuffle step, shuffle bl ch

MissChristine wrote:


I love Mr. Gilbert, but he has his own variation, and when I took my DMA tap test, had to go back and completely relearn them correctly.

The "DMA way" isn't more correct than the Gilbert syllabus, it is just the way you have to know things for the DMA test. Just like with differences in ballet methods, tap has different methods, styles, approaches. When I did my DMA training the tap instructors were quick to point out that what we needed to learn for their test wasn't the one right way, it was just their standard. The emphasis was teach whatever style or system you choose, just know your style and know what you are teaching.

@Majere - the time step you ask about is on grade 3 of the Gilbert Syllabus. Memory tells me he calls it the Stomp Buck Time Step and he only gives the triple.

you can say what you want, but mr. gilbert does a chorus and a half.... and a time step is one chorus...

Mr. Gilbert does buck time steps w/ standard breaks.... standard time steps w/ buck breaks, teaches triples before ever teaching singles....

I would suggest you getting a good tap reference book and stick too it. I would suggest Tapworks by Beverly Fletcher.

vista5 wrote:


@Majere - the time step you ask about is on grade 3 of the Gilbert Syllabus. Memory tells me he calls it the Stomp Buck Time Step and he only gives the triple.

Thank you! For some reason when I listened to that one a few days ago it didn't click in my brain what it was (probably because I was looking for the single). That's also probably why my assistant say "I thought this had a shuffle in it" when I started teaching the single.

Example...Grade 3... he calles it Stomp Buck Time Step: does shuffles instead of stompfuls and follows it w/ a a buck break. So the only truly thing about the time step is the break.

replaced the track w/ a stevie wonder song and broke down first the buck time step and break... and then the standard version.


Also, His Shim Sham is not correct... he shuffle steps instead of stompful step. I got my shim sham info from a shim sham history video by Leonard Reed..so again I just replace the track w/ Turkey in the straw..